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Manufacturer: Prentice Hall
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Binding: Hardcover
Dewey Decimal Number: 646.77
EAN: 9780130950918
ISBN: 0130950912
Label: Prentice Hall
Manufacturer: Prentice Hall
Number Of Items: 1
Number Of Pages: 450
Publication Date: 1998-09
Publisher: Prentice Hall
Studio: Prentice Hall
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The scrious, no holds-barred answer to The Rules gives single and divorced men a step-by-step guide on how to succeed romantically with women. Contains advice on everything from flirting and grooming, to courtship, establishing intimacy, and maintaining a relationship. This is an invaluable source of information and guidance for any man unsure of the ground rules of the new "dating game".
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Summary: A Longing for Intimacy/A Search for Self
Comment: How to Succeed with Women communicates a rich foundation of social and life skills to single men in order that they might be more successful at attracting and dating women. It's been six years since I hammered through the book -rather quickly for I am a slow reader. Considering how intimacy is such an integral part of everyday life for most of us, not to mention the social status a man gets from his peers, family, and coworkers for having an attractive woman in his life, I would have to say that finding this book was one of the few things that almost instantaneous impacted my life in a positive way. Not that my life had not been changed for the better by other things or that it was or is all that bad, but the sheer pace of positive change after reading this book has been unparalleled except by a few other experiences.
Ironically, it was actually an accident that I even began reading the book to begin with. I was in a book store and overheard a conversation about a book that had very little to do with this particular one. Browsing through the same section I came upon this book. I had planned on being somewhere else that day, which would have put me further from what I really wanted in life - respect, intimacy, and trust.
I was twenty-three, worked a dead-end job, lived at home with my parents, and had only two people that I considered friends though I rarely talked to them since dropping out of college. Like other readers have said, I too wish I had found this book much earlier.
Within a month of reading the first chapters, I started going out to bars and asking peoples opinions about my appearance and about what I should do about my job. It was like a swapping an old Honda Prelude for a new Chevy Malabo. I was in the fast lane or so I thought at the time. Within weeks I found myself for the second time in my life in a bar and third time in life drinking. I had broken out of the sheltered, socially deprived life. People were eager to get me under their wing and "show me the ropes' of life. This worked really well at first. I was noticed and started many friendships and eventually had a girlfriend. After five months or so the flame that had been lit inside me was dwindling to a slow glowing ember. I felt I had reached an impasse. The ground I had gained on the social ladder I was quickly loosing. I lost my girlfriend within one week and most of friends I had met along the way were now no more than acquaintances whose faces stared back at me blankly when I said hello.
Just as the stock market has rallies on its way down to the bottom in a recession, I too had my rallies. I read most of How to Talk to Women, also by Ron Louis and David Copeland. This seemed for a while to give me the conversation tools that I needed to keep a woman's attention. It also gave me some insight in communicating with people in everyday situations. After some successes and some failures with this new approach, I thought it was time for another approach. I read David DeAngelo's Double Your Dating. Armed with a new attitude, I would make cocky and funny comments when initiating conversations. This really caught many people including attractive women off guard. You could then start a conversation. But then what do you say afterwards in the conversation? What do you do if the woman is cockier or funnier than you?
Three years after I started I figured as I was only marginally better than I was when I started off. I was unemployed and still in mom and dad's home. Around the same time, I saw a flash game advertising The Game by Neil Strauss. I passed up the opportunity to read it at that time because I was depressed that the effort I had put in studying seduction so far had not paid off like I had intended to do. Things didn't start to pick up until I grabbed a hold of life and started building myself up in ways that did not have anything to do with women or seduction. Of course I guess that what Ron and David were talking about the whole time -making a life for your self separate from women.
The knowledge you take from this book should be used as a foundation to get your life in order. Certainly it isn't the "end all, be all" book of seduction. It is a start but leave wanting more when it comes to social interaction. I don't think an encyclopedia of books could cover all there is to know about human social interaction. Just the same there is no magic trick or line you can use that will instantly lead to success with women. It takes initiative, hard work, and discipline to be successful in meeting and attracting women.
I would start by learning the concepts in this book and then move on to books that have more to do with social interaction like Double Your Dating, The Game, and The Mystery Method. I really think a multifaceted approach done in succession would prove most effective. Some who are already successful in life, who are already snappy dressers, and who already have goals set may get less from this book and more from books like the Mystery Method.
Some years after I first read How to Succeed with Women, as I get back into the seduction community, I realize the mistakes I made. I realize that authors are very protective of their image as the guru and wouldn't hesitate to discredit someone else's method. I hear conversations and read reviews from critics who still do not understand what this is about saying, "Why can't you just be yourself? Isn't this fake and misleading to women? Does this really work?" I don't think it has anything to do with either. It's about cultivating the parts of you that are attractive. It's about growing to becoming more than who you currently are. Some who are so dogmatically critical of seduction materials would not stop to consider what I have to say.
This is my advice -read as much as you can on the subject but be smart in doing it. Read reviews about what works and does not work. Consider coaching and other methods. Maintain a balance on how much money and effort you spend on seduction with the outcomes you except to achieve. Most importantly have fun while doing it and stop when it isn't.
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Summary: A Classic, Yet Still Relevant
Comment: I bought this book based on a reference in Secrets of the A Game by Logan Edwards. This is great book that covers a lot of ground and it if you actually read and apply the writing to your life, you will have more success with women.
It's a lot to take it, so I recommend reading a chapter every week and trying to incorporate a few new techniques or strategies until you feel you're ready to move to the next chapter. I don't recommend trying to read it in a weekend or even a week because it will leave you with way too much to take about at one time.
I highly recommend both this book and "A" Game.
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Summary: Essential for all Men
Comment: You know all those puzzling things women do. They are explained here. More importantly this book tells you how to respond to the situations we find ourselves in with our women. This book is aimed at those trying to start a relationship or hook-up, but is still essential for someone that is already in a relationship and wants to make it better.
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Summary: In Spite of the Critics,This Book WILL Help you if you're a "Nice Guy!"
Comment: In light of some of the reviews I've read here,I felt the need to add my two cents if you will,Seeing as how in my opinion this book doesn't get a fair shot...
I first bought this book in 2001,shortly after September 11,at point in my life when I felt I needed to make a drastic change.I was 28 at the time,painfully shy,and just out of a rather tumultous relationship with a much older woman with several kids (none of them mine...) I felt unattractive,overweight...Besides my freinds and family,I wasn't a terribly social person,and felt as if there was no chance for me to meet a woman who I truly would want to be with.
I did,however,have lots and lots of female "friends" who felt totally comfortable telling me about their dating problems,and of course I listened to them faithfully,hoping one day one of them would miraculously see me as their knight in shining armor...That happened once,but eventually with disastrous results.
Once I read this book,I came to a realization that my family and fellow "Nice Guy" friends never clued me in on...That most people,male and female,DATE before they settle upon someone.That may mean there's sexual interaction along the way,or it may mean that one person falls deeper in love than the other...But it doesn't mean that your first is your one and only,and if you should happen to lose someone along the way,if you're a person with a happening life and confidence,you'll eventually find someone new,when you're ready to.
Nice guys in particular truly need to read this book.I was one of them,and the section on the Fear of Hurting Women resonated with me.Because of all the accounts of bad dates and such my female friends told me,I swore in my mind that I'd never be that way,thinking that it was a good thing.NOT AT ALL.In turing nice and harmless,I essentially neutered myself in the eyes of any potential dates.
Quite a few men have an inner war with their sexuality,not in terms of orientation,but in terms of whether or not their desiring a woman is HURTING a woman.This book will teach you how to see through the fog of those anxieties.
When I started acting confidently,making dating women less of a priority,and myself the top priority,then things started to change.
To the critics:
In regards to the motives of any man who reads this book,it's been said by the authors themselves in other media that the only way a man is going to be happy with his final choice in a mate is only AFTER he's satisfied with knowing what's out there.How else will he truly feel confident in his choice of a woman as a long term partner.The book says it in Plain English,IN THE LAST CHAPTER...And they DO NOT endorse cheating on a long-term partner.They also make it clear that finding someone for a lasting relationship is a matter of compromise,to some degree.She's not going to be Miss Perfect.They also stress the importance of safe sex,and not getting into hasty sex situations,complete with a breakdown of what you could contract if you don't play it safe.
And as far as some of their actal examples of tactics go...Well,okay,I have to admit,I did scowl at the use of hand puppets as a serious way of drawing women.I'm a big black man from New Jersey,and there's no way in You-Know-Where that I'm taking a hand puppet of a bunny rabbit and going to talk to ladies on Broad and Market Streets in Newark!But you can take their basic ideas and augment them...The fundamentals are the same.Maybe a hand puppet is a no go,but pushing your little baby niece in a stroller,or walking a puppy...You get the idea.
I won't rehash some of the other strong points that other reviewers have already pointed out.Just read (and watch in some cases) and judge for yourself.
When this book first came out,as far as I was aware it was the only one of its kind-serious in nature,not the "Pick up chicks" kind of book that you would find ads for in the back of smut magazines.
In recent years,there have been others-Neil Strauss,David DeAngelo,and most Notably Mystery (Erik Von Markovik) who have expanded on this format.These days,they're known as the "Seduction Community" all of their material is valid.But in my opinion,if you're a "nice guy" who's had a ton of female friends who have regaled you with tales of lustful,touchy feely men who you'd sware you'd never be like,then those other media won't help you a bit if you don't address the underlying issues.Louis and Copeland will help you do that.
In closing I'd like to say that in my younger years,I weighed perhaps around 220 lbs,and was ashamed of myself...Right now I'm TWICE that weight,and I date MUCH more now than I did when I was younger...Attractive,proactive women,with careers,goals,and exciting lives.In fact,I wish I read this book when I was 15,instead of 28.I would have avoided MANY of the dating pitfalls I wound up making,and pursued the NORMAL women who were worth the pursuit!
The book WILL help you,if you're a nice guy!!!!
JJ.
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Summary: understanding bs
Comment: This woman Romy Miller-the author has been watching to much of the show"sex in the city"I think shes a superfical money grubing woman-she had only a few things that I thought were good.She must think all men are super rich and find her to be a money hunter when looking for a man.Save your money fellows.
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